Monday, June 14, 2010
The Pack Mentality: Our Place, The Next Right Choice, All About Him & The Catbox's Operating Manual
by Tertia Loebenberg
What is it about anonymity that brings out the worst in people? I don’t get it.
I know that I am perhaps too honest sometimes, too public, too open and so I am probably not the best person to understand this, but I really do not get why people think they can be rude / hateful / spiteful / nasty / mean / just plain ugly if they think they can get away with it. What I want to know is, don’t they feel just a little bit bad? Do they have a conscience? When they go to sleep at night, do they feel at least a smattering of guilt for what they have done to others? How does being anonymous change who you really are? If you believe so strongly in your opinion / belief, then say it openly. Stand up and have the strength of your convictions. Be proud of who you are and what you have to say. The fact that you are hiding behind anonymity makes me think that either you are a coward, or deep down, you doubt what you have to say.
There is an online support forum that I sometimes read. I don’t participate too often for obvious reasons, but I read, just in case there is someone I can reach out to and help / offer encouragement etc. This forum is set up in a way that allows people to post anonymously, with pretty much a guarantee that their identity will not be known. And people use this in the most spiteful of ways. They post their regular posts under their ‘known name or pseudonym and when they get pissed at someone or something, they post anonymously. They attack other people, say horrible things, be really mean… all because they can get away with it.
I honesty don’t get it. I find it extremely cowardly and deceitful. It smacks of bullying. Of meanness. And it brings out the worst kind of pack mentality among others. It is so ugly. I would hate to ever be that ugly.
Of course there are many occasions when being anonymous is absolutely acceptable and even preferable. There are times when knowing one’s real identity could be dangerous / embarrassing etc. Although I am very open and public, I do understand that many others choose not to be so open. That’s fine. My issue is with the people who spew hatred and ugliness towards others only because they can get away with it. My feeling is that if you feel that strongly about something, stand up and say it openly. Be proud of what you believe in.
The hate comments, the slander and hate sites, the vicious attacks, belittling other people …… is that how you think it should be done?
I wonder…. do these people have a conscience? Do you think they feel even slightly guilty about the distress they cause others? I can’t believe that they don’t. I know I am naïve, but I just find it impossible to believe that anyone could be so hateful to others and not feel at least a bit bad.
But then, if they don’t feel bad, let me ask this question: if it was done to them, would they feel hurt or upset? And if they still feel their behaviour is justifiable, let me ask another question: if someone had to do what you did to your daughter or son, how would you feel about it then?
I was disappointed to see how on the forum I mentioned, a group of regular posters hid behind anonymity to attack a fellow regular poster (admin). How the pack mentality came out when they realized they could get away with it. That’s not on. Really not on. This ugly veiled cloak of anonymity has facilitated a free-for-all vicious attack from people who don’t have the guts to stand and openly say what they really think. What a pity. And to think that it is supposed to be a support forum.
Are you proud of yourself for making that woman feel shit about herself? Are you? Was it necessary to attack her? Even if you believe she is an asshole / wrong / whatever, do you really think you did the right thing? I don’t know. I don’t think being anonymous excuses you from basic human decency. I think you should be ashamed of yourself actually. I think you acted like a bunch of bullies.
I see it all the time. Find a victim, someone who either rubs you up the wrong way, or does something that doesn’t fit into your definition of acceptable. Maybe even someone who you are a little jealous of, although you would never admit it, and publicly rip her to shreds while hiding behind your anonymity. Then sit back and watch while your fellow mean spirited cowards join in the feeding frenzy. Like a pack of hyenas picking at the bones of the befallen pray, cackling your evil laugh and congratulating yourself at yet another conquest. A hollow victory meant to inflate sense of self worth. Sad.
I find it very hard to understand. But mostly, I find it really sad that people like that exist out there.
Read more: http://www.tertia.org/
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Saturday, March 13, 2010
ANNOUNCING: NEW BLOG....
someone with severe PTSD such as mine isn't really capable of putting enough thoughts together to build or maintain such a professional looking blog.... RIGHT, DIAGNOSTICIAN BINKSTINK?
A person who is "disabled" because of their "complex PTSD" cannot manage to string enough thoughts together to set up a blog such as yours
http://binkstink.blogspot.com
Thursday, February 4, 2010
HUNGRY.....
as those of you who have been reading my blog know... Tallulah and company with all their denial and delusion and magical thinking... don't believe anyone is poor or cold or unemployed or HUNGRY in this country... unless of course, it was their NEXT RIGHT CHOICE...
"The study paints a stark picture of who is hungry in Missouri and the reality these people face" MFBA director Scott Baker said. "Hunger is an increasingly pervasive problem in Missouri. It knows no racial, geographic or demographic boundaries."
VERY DIFFICULT CHOICES FOR THOSE STRUGGLING WITH HUNGER:48% have to CHOOSE between having food or paying utlities!36% have to CHOOSE between having food or paying their rent or mortgage!!37% have to CHOOSE between having food or paying for medical care or medications!
BUT LOOK!!. LOOK, YOU HATEFUL, SELFISH, ASININE BITCH!!! THEY'RE NOT QUITE AS IGNORANT AND LAZY AS YOU LIKE TO MAKE THEM OUT TO BE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Six food banks and over 1,000 agencies (pantries, shelters and kitchens) make upthe MFBA network. This network provides food for a broad cross section of households. Key characteristics include:~39% of the members of households are children under 18 years old10% of the members of households are children age 0 to 5 years old66% percent of clients are non-Hispanic White, 27% are non-Hispanic Black, and 4% are Hispanic42% of the households include at LEAST ONE EMPLOYED ADULT.~This growing problem can only be solved by acknowledging the situation and uniting to confront it head on.," Scott Baker said. "Attitude is imperative if we are to address a dilemma of this magnitude."~the entire suvey can be read online at www.feedingmissouri.org
BEN
2/14/2007
MURDERED
BY THE PSYCHOPATH
Mike McGrannahan
THERE WILL BE NO FORGIVENESS
JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED
“Justice is incidental to law and order.”J. Edgar Hoover
“I do not bring forgiveness with me, nor forgetfulness.The only ones who can forgive are dead; the living have no right to forget."- Chaim Herzog
Tuesday, January 5, 2010
MUZZLING THE ABUSIVE WOMEN OF OUR PLACE
I've been monitoring ie interfering at Our Place, The Next Right Choice and the Catbox... .and i notice that the abusive spews have dropped off considerably... as has new membership... i'm sure they're very upset with me.....how DARE i, yada yada yada...i believe a better question would be....how DARE THEY sucker in abuse victims....and start abusing them, controlling them and forcing them to drink their SNAKE OIL??!!.....hey, if some of those bitches want to take the credit for thier own abuse, want to take repsonsibility for some piece of lowlife shit who would abuse a ROCK if nothing else was available.....and flagellate themselves incessantly over their participation in their abusive situations...then i'm not opposed to it.....in some of their cases i'm actually all in IN FAVOR OF IT....but i do oppose them projecting and forcing THEIR BULLSHIT onto ME!!!....and onto other innocent women who stumble into those little nests of vipers.....
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“I do not bring forgiveness with me, nor forgetfulness.
The only ones who can forgive are dead; the living have no right to forget."
- Chaim Herzog
Monday, January 4, 2010
"BEGGARS CAN'T BE CHOOSERS"... RIGHT, TALLULAH?
i was also saying, that as a VICTIM OF ABUSE... that because i am now in poverty, as are so MANY victims of domestic violence... and that because i have no health insurance... that i have no access to any decent therapy for my complex PTSD... or, as a single woman, access to any sort of medical care at all... or any government aid, except for food stamps.... this is what that kind, caring , alleged victim of domestic abuse,Tallulah, had to say...
Re: nothing to do but let them go
mata_hari41
2009-12-30 02:11 pm (UTC)
"How DARE people seeking help, ask for help on THEIR TERMS!!"
How dare ~YOU~ expect top of the line, top notch help simply for the fact that you can't afford to pay for ANY help whatsoever!
"Gee, I can't afford even a 1970 Pinto, therefore, you OWE ME a fvcking MERCEDES."
Pleeezzz. Pffft.How does that saying go??? Oh yeah. *BEGGARS CAN'T BE CHOOSERS."
And you, [confederaterebel], have the temerity to quote Ayn Rand??? LOL! You'll have her spinning in her grave.
and there you have it... how DARE i, or anyone, including any victim of domestic violence expect decent help?... if a victim can't afford to PAY for help... she is not deserving of any... that's the REAL Tallulah... her REAL OPINIONS... unvarnished... she wasn't censoring herself there... this was spouted on a blog where she thought no one else would ever see or know what a hateful, selfish, abusive bitch she really is... in a lame attempt to lash out at me and taunt me about my poverty........
Of current welfare recipients in Michigan, 63% have experienced physical abuse, and 51% have experienced severe physical abuse in their lifetimes.Physical abuse/being afraid of someone was cited as the primary cause of homelessness in Michigan.Over 50% of all homeless women and children REPORTED being victims of domestic violence.Reasearch shows that a variety of factors contribute to the poverty of women and children who have experienced domestic violence, including lack of affordable housing,and lack of accessibity to legal assistance.
Some of the most signifigant factors are barriers to employment. These barriers consist of, among others: Psychological effects of domestic violence (PTSD, depression and anxiety)
mata_hari41
2009-12-21 05:24 am (UTC)
No, there are THREE camps.
Inferno
Purgatory
Paradise
[confederaterebel] dwells in the Inferno. "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here."
because although you attempt to CONCEAL the REALITY of you being a cold hearted, callous, selfish, petty misanthrope; who doesn't want domestic violence victims to have access to decent care, due to their POVERTY... you cannot EVADE the CONSEQUENCES of that REALITY... because here are the CONSEQUENCES... you've been OUTED... as a self serving, self absorbed, selfish, two faced, abusive, NARCISSISTIC, AYN RAND WORSHIPPING, IGNORANT BITCH...
she (and her Narc bitch sisters on the Our Place & Next Right Choice sooper secret forums where they bash abused women behind their backs) will no doubt be glad to know that the insurance industry is behind her all the way in keeping domestic violence victims 'beggars' who cannot ever be 'choosers':
here's another recent bit of insight into Tallulah's opinions on the poor, the homeless and the unemployed... it's true what they say about Narcs... they don't read the papers or watch the news... they already know everything about
Re: upsetting your own rotten apple cart......
mata_hari41
2010-01-02 08:58 pm (UTC)
The downtrodden dirt poor ignorant don't have many choices other than begging.
People with ~intelligence~, such as yourself, Mary, DO. YOU have OPTIONS because you have a brain in your head.
Re: money
mata_hari41
2010-01-03 09:10 pm (UTC)
Where is this going, Mary? Where? WHERE? Me, Bink, YOU, we'd lost everything. Hit rock bottom. Had our teeth proverbially knocked out and our noses metaphorically broken. What part of poverty & humiliation do you think we don't get? O fuck. We get it. Yes we do.
We also get that, with humiliation comes humility and the latter is a GOOD thing. A few weeks ago I was in downtown Ann Arbor. A woman approached me. She smiled at me and commented on how 'chilly' the weather was and then she asked me for a dollar. I gave it to her. Of course.
A few weeks later I was walking down the same Ann Arbor street. There was a man on the corner requesting money, a homeless man. There was hostility and resentment in his eyes and words. I walked past him twice and NO I didn't give him a fucking cent. Almost did, but I thought, NO, people who want to make a sale DON'T do it that way.
this of course doesn't sit well with SAINT TALLULAH... he apparently didn't have enough humility to suit her... so she... to quote her... 'DIDN'T GIVE HIM A FUCKING CENT'... because... 'PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE A SALE DON'T DO IT THAT WAY'!!!!!! WELL... i'm surprised a SMILE would suffice... i'm surprised SAINT TALLULAH doesn't require the BEGGARS SHE CHOOSES to be in blackface... tap dancing and singing DIXIE!!... she's looking for a lot of humility in a beggar... but she doesn't really seem to have all that much herself... especially for considering humility to be a GOOD THING...
gee... i'd say that 'what part of poverty and HUMILIATION ' she doesn't get is ALL PARTS OF IT!!!!! forget Appalachia... she needs to be parachuted into Ethiopia... with only a 5,000 dollar prepaid Starbucks card and a tube of Estee Lauder Sun Block... oh yeah... and some humility...
(please take note of how her behavior toward me has changed YET AGAIN....she tries the old tired gaslighting routine.....'we've all been there...you're intelligent'.....the bitch obviously doesn't think i'm too very intelligent....or she wouldn't be pulling this kind of bullshit!!...and now it's back to i'm a beggar who can't be a chooser...because of MY BAD ATTITUDE..that i can't find decent help because of MY BAD ATTITUDE...wonderful, benevolent saints like herself refuse to offer me help because of MY bad attitude....here's my bad attitude, Tallulah...go shove a dollar up your own sanctimonious ass!!)
apparently this doesn't bother her a bit...
apparently NOTHING much bothers Tallulah the Ayn Randroid.....
i will not let him get away with murdering you
- Chaim Herzog
the piece of scum that Tallulah KNOWS is a murdering PSYCHOPATH yet still finds so ATTRACTIVE...

